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SHTFCO
02-13-2015, 09:08 PM
New to this aspect of things. Is there such a radio that you can buy for 2 way communication that can get up to 20 miles in city type areas? Id love to hear more from folks who have found the setup that works. I was thinking about scoring a few of those Baofeng Radios but am not convinced they would do the job. Thanks for any insight.

AD
02-13-2015, 09:46 PM
HAM Radio. The official HAM site for AA forums is www.preparedham.com and was actually started when AA was first writing a chapter at a time. tex had a CME knock out the cell towers in his area and I mwntioned that he needed to have a HAM radio and license then he would have comms.

It easy to get as 7 year old kids are passing the tests.

All of the questions and answers are published and it just take studying then scheduling a test. $15

I and several others(UN and WLynn and others) used a pay site called www.hamtestonline.com

Here is a link for studying on HTOL
http://www.preparedham.com/forums/training-presentationsvideos/ham-test-online-study-method/


Here are some free sites
http://www.preparedham.com/forums/technician/website-links-to-help-you-pass-the-test!/

W.Lynn
02-13-2015, 11:02 PM
There's three tests, they all cost the same, but as long as you pass the first one you can continue on that one test fee, and save a little money. The first two are so close you should plan for both the first time you sit down to test. Depending on your study habits, if you get anxious over tests or not, etc, you might even go for all three on that one test fee.

AD
02-13-2015, 11:09 PM
I beat WLynn by 40 minutes to the Extra license. I had the Tech and Gen in hand and when I learned she was taking all three at the same time i rushed and took my Extra about a week ahead of schedule so i would not suffer the ridicule from Perparedham guys for her beating me.

The fact that she went from Zero to Hero in a few hours still has me humbled.

SHTFCO
02-13-2015, 11:39 PM
So yep Im up on the HAM stuff I plan to get that going what IM more curious about is Long Range portable hand HAM Radios. Any of them with a particular setup able to pick up and transmit around 20 miles? Thanks for all the advice. I plan to take this test in the next few months. Wanted to get a unit first as motivation =-)

AD
02-13-2015, 11:53 PM
Every HAM hand held is "line of site" meaning mountain top to mountain top would be 30 ish miles with out repeaters.

Beyond that you need HF(H&R gh freq) comms.

To cut down the back and forth PM me and I will send you my phone # so we can cut to,the chase.

Sacajawea
02-14-2015, 09:33 AM
SHTFCO, I'm opting for the same type of radio - handheld/mobile.

The past month, we've had high winds here - 50+mph, and these are just winter nor-easters. The real storms get a bit more intense. My roof is 30 ft from the ground and I don't "do" heights well. I can't even get into our attic, tho maybe the new ladder is tall enough. So antennas are problematic. There are 4-5 repeaters around me. And the test is the very next thing on my list; I've got a week of yucky cold weather coming up and local support too. Time to "git R done".... before the weather is nice enough to go to the range again.

unseenone
02-14-2015, 10:30 AM
The only way to get more range out of handhelds is to attach an external antenna. It works well.

You do not need to install on a roof, you can use a tripod or pole mount at the ground level.

You can also do a wire antenna, DMH got one, you can string in various configuration for HF. From VHF the antenna is small, height will help, but is not as critical as proper installation.

I recommend taking at least the Tech and General on the same day, and get it out of the way, then you will have some HF available to practice.

idial1911
02-15-2015, 01:54 PM
What you guys mean twitter isn't enough?? This is crazy talk!!

SHTFCO
02-15-2015, 03:11 PM
So I just ordered the Baofang UV5R with the extended battery and car charger. Also picked up the Nagoya NA771 SMA Female 2.15 dB 10W Single Antenna for Baofeng KGUVD1P UV5R So this should be decent Pack Radio.

Question if I get a 100 foot extended cable to throw this up in a tree or building would it extend my range big time? Now to find a decent home base unit that doesnt kick my pocket book.

AD
02-15-2015, 03:13 PM
Call me.

No can do with the 100 foot cable. Your losses at these freqs are HUGE!

Why did you not pick this one

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PTJ43FU?psc=1 With 8 watts?

This antenna will help a lot for the base. Look at the gain on it.
http://www.diamondantenna.net/x50a.html


The X50NA and X50A are excellent choices where ruggedness is required in a medium-gain, dual-band application.

Special Features:
• Fiberglass radome
• Stainless steel hardware
• Wide band performance
• Factory adjusted – no tuning required
• High wind rating
• DC grounded
Specifications:
Band: 2m/70cm
Gain (dB): 4.5/7.2
Max Power Rating: 200
Wind Rating: 135 MPH (no ice)
Height (feet): 5.6
Connector: UHF
Element Phasing: 3-1/4l, 3-5/8l

kickstand
02-15-2015, 03:44 PM
Here's the Amazon list that I put together for a handheld bag radio. Just remember that this is a low cost kit, and as we all know, you get what you pay for. With that said, I've been happy with this setup.

https://www.amazon.com/registry/wishlist/1BS7DBSX4VS7T/ref=cm_sw_r_an_wl_o_Qpq4ub0AKZ2GX

Jstwaiting
02-15-2015, 04:36 PM
Thanks Kick. Ordered and on the way.

Have been procrastinating but finally ordered a study guide and will be taking the ham tests. Looks like the internet will be going away as we know it today
and radios will be the source of true info - at least until they come for that too.

W.Lynn
02-15-2015, 05:01 PM
If you don't press the mic button, they dunno where it is. If you have to press the mic button, you can be prepared to tear down and haul tuchus.

SHTFCO
02-15-2015, 06:18 PM
Just got off the phone with AD man that guy is full of knowledge. Huge thanks AD for all the wonderful insight. Now I got alot of work to do to get ready for the tests =-)

kickstand
02-15-2015, 06:32 PM
Just got off the phone with AD man that guy is full of knowledge. .....

Man, that is NOT where I expected that to go.... :)

AD
02-15-2015, 06:53 PM
I am Disappointed. It took 14 minutes for a smart ass comment.

I fully expected it from M, but not you Peg Leg

SHTFCO
02-15-2015, 07:23 PM
Man, that is NOT where I expected that to go.... :)

Took me a minute but I got what you were saying there LMAO.

AD
02-15-2015, 07:44 PM
With all that smarts I imparted to SHTF, what he didn't say was I also cost him a boat load of $$$$money$$$$

Its like M and here purses, shoes or her vast collection of Spanx, once you start you cant stop..

junior125
02-15-2015, 07:51 PM
HF is expensive, and slight addictive

AD
02-15-2015, 07:54 PM
SHTF, JR live just south of you a few miles.

kickstand
02-15-2015, 07:57 PM
I am Disappointed. It took 14 minutes for a smart ass comment.

I fully expected it from M, but not you Peg Leg


That's just 'cause you didn't visit me in the horsepital...

kickstand
02-15-2015, 07:58 PM
SHTF, JR live just south of you a few miles.

Sounds like a GREAT NVIS test arrangement...

kickstand
02-15-2015, 08:21 PM
BTW, I'm absolutely sure that AD mentioned using HamTestOnline to help study and pass the tests, but if he forgot to mention it, I would highly recommend them.

http://www.hamradiolicenseexam.com/index.html

AD
02-15-2015, 08:24 PM
That's just 'cause you didn't visit me in the horsepital...

Thats due to my old age. I was there for a week and did not think of you once. It was also the week i turned in my resignation and walked away from a 6 figure job to go consult.

kickstand
02-15-2015, 08:25 PM
Excuses excuses. ...

junior125
02-15-2015, 09:28 PM
Sounds like a GREAT NVIS test arrangement...

that 102" whip I've got should flex really nicely :whistle:

SHTFCO
02-15-2015, 11:06 PM
SHTF, JR live just south of you a few miles.

Nice JR where you at? Chris said he would come through town and take me out for a beer I think that makes me part of the inner circle of trust :lol:

unseenone
02-15-2015, 11:39 PM
Are you sure he didn't say "Take you out, for your beer"

Have you tested the Whip Jr.? Pictures of the setup?

junior125
02-16-2015, 06:10 AM
Are you sure he didn't say "Take you out, for your beer"

Have you tested the Whip Jr.? Pictures of the setup?

When I get day light today and get the snow off the truck I'll get some

Nice JR where you at? Chris said he would come through town and take me out for a beer I think that makes me part of the inner circle of trust :lol:

I'm in the springs, straight down 25 from you

junior125
02-24-2015, 07:58 PM
http://i1317.photobucket.com/albums/t632/Michael_Lindeman/Mobile%20Uploads/20150224_133408_zpsq7aeqy1t.jpg

http://i1317.photobucket.com/albums/t632/Michael_Lindeman/Mobile%20Uploads/20150224_133404_zpsqy9tduob.jpg

That ground strap isn't hooked to anything yet, I scraped down to metal underneath the mount and it seems to be working fine, got into 14.300's Maritime net without issues when I tested it. I'm going to pull it back apart and put some conductive grease under it before I put my toolbox back on over it

unseenone
02-24-2015, 08:02 PM
Use Rainx on the whip it will clean it and protect it. Salt goo in particular will really mess up your antenna transmissions.

junior125
02-24-2015, 08:05 PM
I've been needing to get more rainx to redo my windshield anyhow

Tex
02-24-2015, 09:07 PM
Jr, it looks like you just used screws. Am I seeing that right? The metal on truck beds is pretty thin and it is sometimes wise to use bolts and have a steel plate on top and bottom to keep everything intact for the longterm. The wind and vibration will cause the metal to fatigue and crack around the mount.



Tex

junior125
02-24-2015, 10:23 PM
Jr, it looks like you just used screws. Am I seeing that right? The metal on truck beds is pretty thin and it is sometimes wise to use bolts and have a steel plate on top and bottom to keep everything intact for the longterm. The wind and vibration will cause the metal to fatigue and crack around the mount.



Tex

There is a stainless steel plate under it, the screws where supplied with the mount, ive considered getting regular stainless bolts fot it

W.Lynn
02-25-2015, 02:52 AM
Maybe some loctite on the threads?

junior125
02-25-2015, 08:45 AM
I think I'm going to do that at the same time that I get hex head bolts for it, just for extra piece of mind