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Graywolf
07-28-2014, 09:29 PM
I threw out a question on my Graywolf Survival facebook page the other day asking if anyone would be interested in how they could start their own prepper or survival website.

I had a suspicion that there might be interest because I know preppers have a lot of knowledge and they can always use extra income as an insurance policy against losing their job and to pay for some of the ammo/food/supplies etc that they want. I got FLOODED with emails, chat windows and several comments on the post.

So I spent a TON of time coming up with an article on how to get started. It goes through finding a niche, thinking of a brand, coming up with a domain name, and then steps to walk through how to get a domain name and install wordpress on a server to get started. I wanted to write the article that I wish I'd had when I started online years ago.

Making money online is a LOT of work, but if you think it through and plan on doing a lot of learning along the way, you can EVENTUALLY make a good deal of money from it.

In case you're interested, here's the article

Financial prepping: how to start a prepper website - the right way (http://graywolfsurvival.com/3628/financial-prepping-how-to-start-a-prepper-website-choosing-a-niche/)

Tex
07-29-2014, 12:22 AM
Prepping and the Threeper movement are both kind of hot right now, but I am wondering how long it will last. Yes, both have alot of value and need behind them, but let's face it, there are alot of people out there who jump on every little hot bandwagon that comes along. The newness will wear off for alot of people before long and many of these newer sites will fade into oblivion. That being said, there is room for some more quality out there.

For a while I had thought about starting one geared toward my areas of expertise, but two things happened. I realized that I don't have the time to keep one updated and filled with new material all the time and AA told me I could have a few liberties here to do what I wanted. I didn't want to compete with this site at all, but in order to have been viable, I would have had to atleast somewhat. The whole deal was a no-go for me because of several different factors.

There are alot of people out there with alot of useful knowledge to pass on, but there are very few who have enough to justify having their own site, you being one of the exceptions Graywolf. In many cases, if a few of these people with the smaller more obscure sites would team up and share responsibilities and duties and combine their sites, they would really have something spectacular. As it is though, most don't have enough to make folks even want to remember their web address. I am on the mailing list for Western Rifle Shooters and I like what they do. They will wade through alot of the more obscure sites and then send out mailers or alerts when somebody has something that is worthy of attention. In my opinion, that was a good idea.

Graywolf, hopefully some folks will take your advice and learn from your trials and errors and be able to get some more useful information out to the masses. With any luck at all though, a few of them will get together and build something really cool.


Tex

Graywolf
07-29-2014, 01:03 AM
Tex brother, how much have you already forgotten about ranching that other people would like to know? What about all the things that go into ranching? what about things that ranchers buy or use? Like guns? Or horses? Or cattle? Or saddles? Or saddle soap? I don't have the slightest idea about things that you could write books about.

There's always a way to make money online. Don't be the gold digger. Be the guy that sells shovels. Or the guy who has the website to tell them all about shovels and provides the link to the shovels they should buy.

Tex
07-29-2014, 02:31 AM
Thanks for the compliment. Others have told me some of the same things, but when it comes to all of this internet stuff, I don't even know or have a clue about all of the things I would need to pull it off. And like a I said before, I don't know if I would have the time or the content to keep things interesting and useful. I have given this quite a bit of thought for a while, but I always end up scratching my head and wondering how people do it. It does sound interesting though. Maybe you can give me a call sometime soon and I can pick your brain.

What sort of cost would a person be looking at in order to get started?


Tex

Graywolf
07-29-2014, 03:43 AM
It can be done very cheaply but if you have little internet experience you might wanna wait until I get a chance to come out to the ranch lol. There is a lot too it but getting started isn't all that much if you have someone to step you through it. I took 10k words just to explain how to figure out what kind of business you might wanna do online and then how to get the thing started with a blank slate. There's a bunch more to it than that but if you already know the internet fairly well then it's not that big a leap.

Your business can probably use some kind of online presence but you don't wanna go throwing out dollars there until you get a good game plan.

If you're internet-savvy, you can get started with just a couple hundred bucks - or much less than that. If not, you might have to get someone to walk you through it and they're not cheap. Of course some of us might just trade being able to hang out for a week and help with chores and emptying a few beers in exchange for helping at some point.

Tex
07-29-2014, 12:59 PM
Come on up. I would welcome the company and the help. When you leave, I do have an old broad who helps me out on all things computer and she is pretty damn savvy on it. I'm sure she will make her presence known once she sees that I called her an old broad too, lol.

She has been after me to get something going in this regard for quite awhile and there has been a few others around here too. I still don't think I am smart enough to pull it off, but I never thought I would be writing a book either.

I would appreciate the help if you want to come out to the ranch and help get me going. Surely we could find a few things to occupy our time while you are here.


Tex

Bumper
07-29-2014, 01:45 PM
finding a niche, thinking of a brand, coming up with a domain name, and then steps to walk through how to get a domain name and install wordpress on a server to get started.

That right there is the bulk of the work and not really all that technical if you know how to point domain names and setup hosting. Many hosting companies will "auto install" WordPress since it is so popular. And, if you use WordPress, it removes a lot of the deep technical work out of the whole process. I have been building websites for a long time now and so many people, without technical experience, are interested in maintaining their own website, a full 90% of what I do now is setup WordPress sites for people. It can handle just about anything you might want to do.

Graywolf
07-29-2014, 02:03 PM
Yeah, they have a quick install thing similar to what fantastico does on the example I showed.

The big thing I wanted to get across with the article was coming up with a plan before they get started. Too many people just jump into it.

Bumper
07-29-2014, 03:57 PM
The big thing I wanted to get across with the article was coming up with a plan before they get started. Too many people just jump into it.

Absolutely. And, people have to treat it like it is a business. So many throw up a website and never update it. I always tell that never updating or adding content is really worse than not having one. Once people believe that your website is stagnant it's hard to get them back again. A blog, that is regularly updated is one of the best ways to build traffic with the search engines over the long haul.

Graywolf
07-29-2014, 05:12 PM
Yup, and you need to fill it with several articles before you start actively promoting it or people will stop in from your efforts (that could have been used writing), see the place is empty, and never come back.

Kelly
08-03-2014, 02:14 AM
... When you leave, I do have an old broad who helps me out on all things computer and she is pretty damn savvy on it. I'm sure she will make her presence known once she sees that I called her an old broad too, lol.
...
Tex

Once I get my gov subsidized walker, stairway chair lift and AARP card, I should be able to help you between the hours of 4 and 6am, cause that's when us old broads are awake...

Asshat.

Kelly

dangerdan
08-03-2014, 05:13 AM
( ASSHAT )


AWWW Kelly is trying to help Tex with his domain name ...how sweet .


8)

DD

Tex
08-03-2014, 02:21 PM
( ASSHAT )


AWWW Kelly is trying to help Tex with his domain name ...how sweet .


8)

DD

Pardner, she has been more help to me than I could ever repay. Whenever I have any kind of computer questions or problems, she's always got an answer.

Kelly, the Hostile Native and a couple of others have been on my ass about getting a site going, but I've been resisting. Then I talked to Graywolf about it and he allowed how it wasn't as hard as I've been making it out to be. Once I am able to get something going I will have several people to thank.


Tex

Bumper
08-03-2014, 05:47 PM
asshat.com has been taken but asshat.info is still available..... ;)

VINCENT
08-03-2014, 06:29 PM
I could hand over Asshat.com. I'm not using it anymore

MillenniumMan
08-03-2014, 07:47 PM
texdressesacow.com with info on hoisting, slicing, diseases to look out for and the best cuts on the cow. Follow the big mustache to the online store for 20 oz house specials and free recipes! :)

Tex
08-03-2014, 08:18 PM
Do you guys want to get this thread back on track? Go make fun of me in the everyday thread if you want. Graywolf started a good thread to help people get going on their own blog or website, but someone new may not want to wade through all the BS.

I do appreciate the help Graywolf and I did enjoy the article. As it stands, I am checking out some different domain names and discussing some different options with a couple of folks and will have some more questions for you within the next couple days. One thing I am looking into now is pen names. (There is something else for you guys to go to the Darkside and make fun of) When buying the domain names, do you have to use your real name, or can they be bought under a pen name? Also, can they be bought and have the information kept private? AmericanBTGoG, was thinking that by going through someone like GoDaddy a person could choose the option of having the purchasers personal information kept private and should someone need to get ahold of the domain owner, they would need to go through GoDaddy. Does anyone have any information or experience in this regard?


Tex

MillenniumMan
08-04-2014, 10:33 AM
Don't look at me, I was being serious when the idea of a bar-bar-2 website with Tex merchandise popped into my head.

And to answer some of your questions, Tex:
Yes, for domain purchases, they can be bought under your own name, an LLC or a pseudonym, just so long as there is a credit card to pay for the registration each pay cycle.

Same with the purchase of a server. You necessarily don't need to purchase both from the same company. You can get the domain registered with godaddy or verisign or whatnot and the server hardware from Turtle Solutions or a company in the Bahamas for all that matters. You just have to link the IP address of the server hardware to the domain. Once that happens, it takes anywhere from a few hours to a day to propogate the DNS (Domain Name Service) info to all the ISPs out there. Until then, the server could be accessed via the IP address rather than say bar-bar-2-ranch.com

On the private registration thing, whois allows people to look up all the vitals on a site. For instance, angeryamerican.net:


*PS, everything in red is stuff I needed to change for the sake of security for the big boss.


<tbody>
Email
is associated with ~1,213,754 domains
AA's real email address was here, so I've censored it!






Registrar
NAME.COM, INC.



Registrar Status
ok



Dates
Created on 2013-03-24 - Expires on 2015-03-24 - Updated on 2014-03-24
(http://www.domaintools.com/research/whois-history/search/?q=angeryamerican.net)



Name Server(s)
AUGE.LINKEDLA.COM (has 96 domains)
BLUE.LINKEDLA.COM (has 96 domains)
DIANA.LINKEDLA.COM (has 96 domains)
LI.LINKEDLA.COM (has 96 domains)






IP Address
208.71.172.68 - 126 other sites hosted on this server
(http://reverseip.domaintools.com/search/?q=angeryamerican.net)



IP Location
http://whois.domaintools.com/images/flags/us.gif - California - San Clemente - Network Data Center Host Inc.


ASN
http://whois.domaintools.com/images/flags/us.gif AS33322 NDCHOST - Network Data Center Host, Inc.,US (registered Nov 19, 2004)


Domain Status
Registered And Active Website


Whois History
11 records have been archived since 2013-03-27
(http://www.domaintools.com/research/whois-history/search/?q=angeryamerican.net)



IP History
1 change on 2 unique IP addresses over 1 years
(http://www.domaintools.com/research/hosting-history/?q=angeryamerican.net)



Registrar History
1 registrar
(http://www.domaintools.com/research/hosting-history/?q=angeryamerican.net)



Hosting History
5 changes on 4 unique name servers over 8 years

(http://www.domaintools.com/research/hosting-history/?q=angeryamerican.net)



Whois Server
whois.name.com

</tbody>
Website

<tbody>
Website Title
http://s2.googleusercontent.com/s2/favicons?domain=angeryamerican.net Angery American News - Angery American
(http://angeryamerican.net)



Server Type
Apache


Response Code
200


SEO Score
88%



Terms
1355 (Unique: 573, Linked: 189)


Images
28 (Alt tags missing: 7)


Links
103 (Internal: 64, Outbound: 12)

</tbody>


Whois Record <small>( last updated on 2014-08-04 )</small>
Domain Name: ANGERYAMERICAN.NET
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.name.com
Registrar URL: http://www.name.com
Updated Date: 2014-03-25T01:26:18-06:00
Creation Date: 2013-03-25T02:26:51-06:00
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-03-25T02:26:51-06:00
Registrar: Name.com, Inc.
Registrar IANA ID: 625
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: http://source.domaintools.com/email.pgif?md5=21038f06952591300e6b3ef49d8a2cb4&face=arial&size=9&color=000000&bgcolor=FFFFFF&face=arial&size=9&color=0000FF&bgcolor=FFFFFF&format[]=transparent&format[]=transparent (http://reversewhois.domaintools.com/?email=21038f06952591300e6b3ef49d8a2cb4)
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.17202492374
Reseller:
Domain Status: ok
Registrant Name: AA's real name was here, so I've censored it!
Registrant Organization: AngeryAmerican
Registrant Street: AAs real address
Registrant City: AAs real city
Registrant State/Province: AAs real city
Registrant Postal Code: 28645
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.AAs REAL PHONE NUMBER WAS HERE, SO I CENSORED IT
Registrant Email: AAsREALEMAILADDYWASHERE@SO I CENSORED IT (http://reversewhois.domaintools.com/?email=06570caabe8566598c4e7de9ee0bd889)
Admin Name: AA's real name was here, so I've censored it!
Admin Organization: AngeryAmerican
Admin Street: AAs real address
Admin City: AAs real city
Admin State/Province: AAs real state
Admin Postal Code: 28645
Admin Country: US
Admin Phone: +1.AAs REAL PHONE NUMBER WAS HERE, SO I CENSORED IT
Admin Email: AAsREALEMAILADDYWASHERE@SO I CENSORED IT (http://reversewhois.domaintools.com/?email=06570caabe8566598c4e7de9ee0bd889)
Tech Name: AA's real name was here, so I've censored it!
Tech Organization: AngeryAmerican
Tech Street: AAs real address
Tech City: AAs real city
Tech State/Province: AAs real state
Tech Postal Code: 28645
Tech Country: US
Tech Phone: +1.AAs REAL PHONE NUMBER WAS HERE, SO I CENSORED IT
Tech Email: AAsREALEMAILADDYWASHERE@SO I CENSORED IT (http://reversewhois.domaintools.com/?email=06570caabe8566598c4e7de9ee0bd889)
Name Server: blue.linkedla.com
Name Server: li.linkedla.com
Name Server: auge.linkedla.com
Name Server: diana.linkedla.com
DNSSEC: NotApplicable
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/


Gotta work on that OpSec AA.

Kelly
08-04-2014, 11:59 AM
You can pay an extra $10/year to make your Domain registration details private, such as:

Domain Name: freestateip.com
Registry Domain ID: 1821917700_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.register.com
Registrar URL: http://www.register.com
Updated Date: 2013-08-15T00:00:00-0400
Creation Date: 2013-08-15T16:57:29-0400
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-08-15T00:00:00-0400
Registrar: Register.com
Registrar IANA ID: 9
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: http://www.whois.com/eimg/b/74/b745810c78176dfb321ff683b8d81426d9b56bce.png@web.c om
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.8773812449
Reseller:
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: PERFECT PRIVACY, LLC
Registrant Organization:
Registrant Street: 12808 Gran Bay Pkwy West
Registrant City: Jacksonville
Registrant State/Province: FL
Registrant Postal Code: 32258
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.9027492701
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext.:
Registrant Email: http://www.whois.com/eimg/7/a9/7a9972e8276319719718d4a34a4c23684ae24340.png@domai ndiscreet.com
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: PERFECT PRIVACY, LLC
Admin Organization:
Admin Street: 12808 Gran Bay Pkwy West
Admin City: Jacksonville
Admin State/Province: FL
Admin Postal Code: 32258
Admin Country: US
Admin Phone: +1.9027492701
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext.:
Admin Email: http://www.whois.com/eimg/7/a9/7a9972e8276319719718d4a34a4c23684ae24340.png@domai ndiscreet.com
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: PERFECT PRIVACY, LLC
Tech Organization:
Tech Street: 12808 Gran Bay Pkwy West
Tech City: Jacksonville
Tech State/Province: FL
Tech Postal Code: 32258
Tech Country: US
Tech Phone: +1.9027492701
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext.:
Tech Email: http://www.whois.com/eimg/7/a9/7a9972e8276319719718d4a34a4c23684ae24340.png@domai ndiscreet.com
Name Server: dns1.register.com
Name Server: dns2.register.com
DNSSEC: Unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2013-08-15T00:00:00-0400 <<<

Bumper
08-04-2014, 01:40 PM
I would recommend paying a little extra and getting a private domain. It really does work. When I was running my forum, we had a guy that was suspected of being a fugitive. The federal agency that was after the guy could not get my contact information without a subpoena so they actually created an account in the forum and left a name and phone number for me to contact them at. Before that incident I was not sure that the system really worked but evidently it works rather well. If someone comes up with a warrant or subpoena the company providing the private domain is required to turn over the information. I expect that a domain registrar in another country would go a long way towards making it more difficult for anyone to get the contact information....

Graywolf
08-05-2014, 03:43 AM
I certainly don't mind. The information is useful to pretty much anyone. I do believe we're not making fun of AD enough in this thread though so we'll have to spend a little more effort on that.

Tex
08-05-2014, 04:12 AM
The information posted in this thread has been very useful to me and has proven how easy getting this type of thing going. It's still way above my level of comprehension, but it has helped me to figure out the right questions to ask so I can then go to Graywolf and Kelly for my answers. It is nice to have friends who are skilled in this sorta thing so that I may be able to continue on in my ignorant bliss.


Tex

AngieM2
08-17-2014, 06:52 PM
Tex and others on this thread. All sounds good on making the site. But it will take a mod team eventually, rules and you'll have to admin it. Sometimes that is the hard part once it is started. I wish you well if you start this site, Tex, and I'd like to read it. I am not here as much as I'd like, but I do like reading around here. And do decide if you're in it to make money, or to make enough money to keep the site going so the information gets out. There is a difference. Many members do not like a site that is there for the making of money, but many don't mind if the Site Owner makes enough so they can participate on the web site.

Graywolf
09-10-2014, 06:42 PM
For those of you who've started your own prepper/homestead/survival/whatever website and would like some additional income on it, Media.net has a bonus right now if you use the link below to sign up. They're paying 10% extra for the first month right now (just started today).
Just use this link: http://www.media.net/join?af=5735&pr=45

What they do is allow you to put some code on your site and that code shows up as an ad for people to click on. They're much better at it than they used to be.


I use it on my websites. It's not a ton of money but it wouldn't take too long for it to pay for more than just your hosting every month. I tried them out to see how well they'd do and they pay more than the others I was using so I dropped those and went with this group.

It's just one of many ways to bring in a few bucks here and there.